On 19/11/2017 12:15 am, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 at 9:11 am, Bruce Kellett <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


    And exactly what is it that you claim has not been proved in MW
    theory? Bell's theorem applies there too: it has never been proved
    that it does not. Bell was no fool: he did not like MWI, but if
    that provided an escape from his theorem, he would have addressed
    the issue. The fact that he did not suggests strongly that you do
    not have a case.


Bell’s theory applies in the sense that the experimental results would be the same in MWI, but the FTL weirdness is eliminated. This is because in MWI the experimenter can’t prepare a random state,

What do you mean by this? Are you claiming that there are no free variables in MWI? Some form of superdeterminism?

But for Bell-type experiments in MWI, or elsewhere, one does not have to prepare a random state -- one just prepares a singlet state consisting of two entangled particles. Nothing random about it.

since there is no true randomness, and therefore there is no question of the entangled particle magically knowing what has happened at the other end. Bell thought, apparently, that MWI weirdness was more weird than FTL weirdness and rejected MWI even though it solved this problem.

Bell actually thought that Bohm's deterministic, though non-local, theory was a better bet. But you have not addressed my counterexample to your contention that MWI eliminates non-locality. The time-like measurement of the two entangled particles clearly requires non-locality in order to conserve angular momentum.

Bruce

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