On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 6:56:52 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 18 Nov 2017, at 21:32, [email protected] <javascript:> wrote: > > > > On Saturday, November 18, 2017 at 1:17:25 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 11/18/2017 8:58 AM, John Clark wrote: >> >> * > I think "must" is unwarranted, certainly in the case of the MWI. >>> Rather, it ASSUMES all possible measurements must be realized in some >>> world. **I see no reason for this assumption other than an >>> insistence to fully reify the wf in order to avoid "collapse".* >>> >> >> The MWI people don't have to assume anything because >> there is absolutely nothing in t >> he Schrodinger >> Wave E >> quation >> about collapsing, its the Copenhagen people who have to assume that >> somehow it does. >> >> >> It's not just an assumption. It's an observation. The SE alone didn't >> explain the observation, hence the additional ideas. >> >> Brent >> > > *Moreover, MWI DOES make additional assumptions, as its name indicates, > based on the assumption that all possible measurements MUST be measured, in > this case in other worlds. * > > > That is not an assumption. It is the quasi-literal reading of the waves. > It is Copenhagen who added an assumption, basically the assumption that the > wave does not apply to the observer: they assumed QM was wrong for the > macroscopic world (Bohr) or for the conscious mind (Wigner, von Neumann) > depending where you put the cut. >
*CMIIAW, but I see it, the postulates tell us the possible results of measurements. They don't assert that every possible measurement will be realized. So I see an additional assumption in the MWI. AG* *I reject this hypothesis. What I do concede is that in the case of the > Multiverse of String Theory, if time is infinite and the possible universes > finite -- 10^500 -- all possible universes will be, or have been, realized. > AG* > > > OK, but that is not Everett-Deustch "multiverse" (relative state, > many-worlds, etc.). > *Too much parsing! I was trying to explain that the Multiverse of String Theory is manifestly *different* from the Many Worlds of the MWI. AG * > > Bruno > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
