On 12/9/2017 6:48 AM, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 5:19:02 PM UTC-6, [email protected]
wrote:
On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 9:47:42 PM UTC, Brent wrote:
When I took a series of classes in Artificial Intelliegence at
UCLA in the '70s the professor introducing the material of the
first class explained that, "Intelligence is whatever a
computer can't do....yet."
Brent
The fear of AI is that computers could eventually exhibit a
characteristic reminiscent of "will" and exhibit it maliciously
against humans. I suppose for you that's not a problem since,
IIRC, you deny the existence of will. AG
For a computer to be intelligent, and maybe even acquire some form of
self awareness, it must be able to re-script its data stack and even
some of its programming. The recent gains in AI have begun to push
into this territory. This would require some subtle work as this
becomes more developed. The system can't becomes trapped in
self-referential loops, but it also may in time require these be
employed. A truncated form of self-reference, one that diagonalizes a
finite list, may permit a system to "pop out" of its knowledge base.
The system may then acquire unprovable truths in a partially
stochastic way. We obviously can't have systems that require an
infinite amount of information to perform Godelian trick, but we might
be able to approximate it.
I suspect AI might learn how to become self aware by being interfaced
with human brains.
But note that humans are not self-aware in the sense you're
contemplating. They cannot consciously "re-script their data stack" or
programming. People are self-aware in that they have a model of
themselves in the world and in social relations. So one models oneself
having thoughts and other people having thoughts as part of ones model
of the world.
Brent
50 years from now I think much of humanity will have their brains
interlinked. This will mean that consciousness will no longer be a
private thing and that AI systems will acquire it as well. Where
things go from there is anyone's guess. Maybe the machines will steal
our consciousness and then discard us as useless.
LC
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