On 12/9/2017 1:13 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
On Saturday, December 9, 2017 at 2:31:48 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote:
On 12/9/2017 6:48 AM, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 5:19:02 PM UTC-6,
[email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 9:47:42 PM UTC, Brent wrote:
When I took a series of classes in Artificial
Intelliegence at UCLA in the '70s the professor
introducing the material of the first class explained
that, "Intelligence is whatever a computer can't do....yet."
Brent
The fear of AI is that computers could eventually exhibit a
characteristic reminiscent of "will" and exhibit it
maliciously against humans. I suppose for you that's not a
problem since, IIRC, you deny the existence of will. AG
For a computer to be intelligent, and maybe even acquire some
form of self awareness, it must be able to re-script its data
stack and even some of its programming. The recent gains in AI
have begun to push into this territory. This would require some
subtle work as this becomes more developed. The system can't
becomes trapped in self-referential loops, but it also may in
time require these be employed. A truncated form of
self-reference, one that diagonalizes a finite list, may permit a
system to "pop out" of its knowledge base. The system may then
acquire unprovable truths in a partially stochastic way. We
obviously can't have systems that require an infinite amount of
information to perform Godelian trick, but we might be able to
approximate it.
I suspect AI might learn how to become self aware by being
interfaced with human brains.
But note that humans are not self-aware in the sense you're
contemplating. They cannot consciously "re-script their data
stack" or programming. People are self-aware in that they have a
model of themselves in the world and in social relations. So one
models oneself having thoughts and other people having thoughts as
part of ones model of the world.
Brent
Learning is a case of rescripting a data stack. Dendrites that are
pared back and built up in different ways are clearly a case of
restructuring the computing system.
But humans have to do it by perceptions and practice - not by directly
acting on their neurons (of which they were unaware for millions of years).
Brent
LC
50 years from now I think much of humanity will have their brains
interlinked. This will mean that consciousness will no longer be
a private thing and that AI systems will acquire it as well.
Where things go from there is anyone's guess. Maybe the machines
will steal our consciousness and then discard us as useless.
LC
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