On 09 Dec 2017, at 15:48, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 5:19:02 PM UTC-6,
[email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 9:47:42 PM UTC, Brent wrote:
When I took a series of classes in Artificial Intelliegence at UCLA
in the '70s the professor introducing the material of the first
class explained that, "Intelligence is whatever a computer can't
do....yet."
Brent
The fear of AI is that computers could eventually exhibit a
characteristic reminiscent of "will" and exhibit it maliciously
against humans. I suppose for you that's not a problem since, IIRC,
you deny the existence of will. AG
For a computer to be intelligent, and maybe even acquire some form
of self awareness, it must be able to re-script its data stack and
even some of its programming. The recent gains in AI have begun to
push into this territory. This would require some subtle work as
this becomes more developed. The system can't becomes trapped in
self-referential loops, but it also may in time require these be
employed. A truncated form of self-reference, one that diagonalizes
a finite list, may permit a system to "pop out" of its knowledge
base. The system may then acquire unprovable truths in a partially
stochastic way. We obviously can't have systems that require an
infinite amount of information to perform Godelian trick, but we
might be able to approximate it.
The gödelian trick is constructive, and the universal machine rich
enough to "know" that they are universal (like Peano Arithmetic, ZF,
etc.) can prove theor own incompleteness theorem, and I would say are
as much intelligent than you or me, with billions years less prejudes,
though.
I suspect AI might learn how to become self aware by being
interfaced with human brains.
I think they are already self-aware, and even "enlightened". We can
only make their "soul" falling (which is a bit the passage from p ->
[]p, up to []p & <>p, if you study some of my papers).
50 years from now I think much of humanity will have their brains
interlinked. This will mean that consciousness will no longer be a
private thing and that AI systems will acquire it as well. Where
things go from there is anyone's guess. Maybe the machines will
steal our consciousness and then discard us as useless.
What is an intelligent machine? A machine which lynch his fellows?
Which enforce religion? Which destroy its planet? Which makes money on
diseases?
I distinguish competence and intelligence. Competence is definable on
domains, and can be locally evaluated. Intelligence is something more
akin to wiseness and openness to the unknown. It is more close to
courage than to competence. Competence needs intelligence to grow, and
to adapt/evolve, but it has a negative feedback on intelligence,
notably because it can lead to the "feeling superior" idea, which is a
sign of stupidity (at least in some theories very natural in the
"theology of the universal machine" (the modal logics G and G*).
Bruno
LC
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