On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 8:11 PM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
> On 12/21/2017 3:34 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>>>
>>> So we are told.  But what if someone could look at a recorded MRI of you
>>> brain and tell you what you were thinking?
>>
>> Why do you need the MRI? You can look at the text that I write and
>> know what I'm thinking. We've been doing that all along.
>> The text I write comes from my fingers hitting the keyboard, and the
>> fingers move in a certain pattern because the muscles are activated by
>> nerves that are connected to my brain and completely correlated to my
>> neural activity. What does the MRI add beyond precision? How does this
>> help solve the mystery that I am conscious, instead of a zombie?
>
>
> Well, you can't lie to the MRI.  But otherwise I agree.  Except that I then
> ask, "What mystery?"  If having thoughts, however expressed or detected, is
> consciousness then problem solved...or more accurately pushed back to why do
> we believe a philosophical zombie is impossible.

Alright, I think we can agree on some important things. I would say
that we are both inclined to believe that:

"Certain configuration of matter are correlated with certain states of
consciousness, and it must be so."

Yes?

The mystery here is: why must it be so? It is a perfectly legitimate
scientific question, I would say.

Telmo.

> Brent
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