Lawrence Crowell <[email protected]> wrote: > *> The point is not that neurological processes can't be modeled using > biophysical algorithms. Below is a neural circuit diagram that illustrates > a feedback structure. These neurons could be replaced by flip flop systems > and other electronic. In that way this system could be modeled. *
Huh? You just said they can’t be modeled. > *> My main point is there is a distinction between the territory and the > map. * So what exactly is that distinction, brains are squishy but computers are not and only squishy things can be conscious? When my calculator adds 2+2 is that the map or the territory, is it doing real arithmetic or simulated arithmetic? Is the “4” my calculator comes up with the same “4” that I find when I do the calculation by hand? > * > Is consciousness something capture in the Church-Turing thesis? * If it isn’t then Charles Darwin was dead wrong. I don’t think Darwin was wrong. Do you? > *> That to me is a very problematic assumption. * If you don’t subscribe to the Church-Turing thesis then you subscribe to the Heebe-Jeebe thesis . t’s a fact that if the physical state of your brain changes your consciousness changes and if your consciousness changes the physical state of your brain changes. So what’s problematic about the Church-Turing thesis? *> I give it half a chance this will go the way the cyrogenic movement > went. In the 1970s there was a big hype about preserving bodies in liquid > nitrogen with the idea of reviving them. There were some clients, but > the whole thing hit the reef financially and with growing criticisms about > the scientific and medical efficacy of this the bodies were eventually > buried.* Alcor currently has 153 people in cryogenic storage and 1,136 people signed up for it including me, the one who’s been in storage the longest is James Bedford, he was frozen on January 12, 1967 and has remained continuously at a liquid nitrogen temperature to this day. If I die today and Alcor takes as good care of me as it did for Bedford then 51 years might be long enough to get me to where I want to go. By the way, Alcor is not the only Cryonics organization although it is the best in my opinion. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
