On Tuesday, March 27, 2018 at 7:21:00 AM UTC-5, stathisp wrote:
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> On 27 March 2018 at 09:35, Brent Meeker <meek...@verizon.net <javascript:>
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>> On 3/26/2018 3:19 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
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>> If you are not and never can be aware of it then in what sense is it 
>> consciousness?
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>> Depends on what you mean by "it".  I can be aware of my consciousness, 
>> without being aware that it is different than it was before; just as I can 
>> be aware of my consciousness without knowing whether it is the same as 
>> yours, or the same as some robot.
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> If I am given a brain implant to try out for a few days and I notice no 
> difference with the implant (everything feels exactly the same if I switch 
> it in or out of circuit), everyone I know agrees there is no change in me, 
> and every test I do with the implant switched in or out of circuit yields 
> the same results, then I think there would be no good reason to hesitate in 
> saying yes to the implant. If the change it brings about is neither 
> objectively nor subjectively obvious, it isn't a change.
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> Stathis Papaioannou
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This argument ignores scaling. With any network you can replace or change 
nodes and connections on a small scale and the system remains largely 
unchanged. At a certain critical number of such changes the properties of 
the entire network system can rapidly change. 

I read the other day about this whole idea of brain uploading. The 
neurophysiologists are largely rejecting this idea.

LC 

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