On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Lawrence Crowell <
[email protected]> wrote:


​> ​
> *You would have to replicate then not only the dynamics of neurons, but
> every biomolecule in the neurons,*


Why? Most of the things neurons do have nothing to do with signal
processing, they just involved in the same dull metabolism stuff that the
cells in your big toe must do  just to stay alive and keep operating.


> ​> ​
> This is another way of saying that biological systems, even that of a
> basic prokaryote, are beyond our current abilities to simulate.


Well of course its beyond our simulate, that's why we don't have uploaded
minds right now! But vitrifying a human brain and storing it at liquid
nitrogen temperatures indefinite is not beyond our current abilities.


> *> You can't just hand wave away the enormous problems with just
> simulating a bacillus, let alone something like the brain.*


I would maintain that YOU can not have wave mind uploading away unless you
can find some fundamental law of physics that proves it could not work, and
all you can come up with is vague speculation that maybe there is something
inside a Black Hole that would prevent it.


> *> Now of course one can do some simulations to learn about the brain in a
> model system, but this is far from mapping a brain and its conscious state
> into a computer.*
>

​If it was good enough its intellectual state would be mapped into a
computer, and that's all I'm concerned with  because I'm confided that
consciousness will follow, I am exactly as confident of that as I am
confident that Charles Darwin was right.

John K Clark

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