On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 2:09:25 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: > > From: <[email protected] <javascript:>> > > On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 1:37:53 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: >> >> From: Bruno Marchal <[email protected] >> Everett prove the contrary, and he convinced me when I read it. I found >> “his proof” used in many books on quantum computing, although with >> different motivation. Thee result of an experiment, obviously depend of >> what you measure, but when you embed the observer in the wave, you get that >> what they find is independent of the choice of the base used to describe >> the “observer” and the “observed”. If not, the MW would already be refuted. >> >> >> In that case, MW is refuted. Clearly, what the observer finds is >> dependent on the basis in which he is described. Or else experiments would >> not have definite results when described in the laboratory from the 1p >> perspective. Even if you take the 'bird' view of the whole multiverse -- >> which is, I agree, independent of the basis in which it is described -- the >> view of any observer embedded in the multiverse is totally basis-dependent. >> That is, after all, what we mean by 'worlds' -- the view from within, or >> the 1p view. But that view depends on how you describe it: the way in which >> you partition the multiverse itself. Only certain very special bases are >> robust against environmental decoherence -- how else do you resolve the >> Schrödinger cat issue? >> >> Bruce >> > > *So you find the resolution in the fact that according to decoherence > theory, the cat is simultaneously alive and dead for only short time? AG* > > > Decoherence has resolved the basis question long before the cyanide has > hit the cat. > > Bruce >
*I don't think you've answered the question. Isn't the cat in a superposition of alive and dead before the cyanide hits? Did Schroedinger write an incorrect wf? If so, what is the correct one IYO? AG * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
