On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Russell Standish <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 07:20:10AM -0500, Jason Resch wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > 6. Most of all, theories of everything that assume a reality containing
> > > all possible observers and observations lead directly to
> laws/postulates of
> > > quantum mechanics (see Russell Standish's Theory of Nothing
> > > <http://www.hpcoders.com.au/theory-of-nothing.pdf>, Chapter 7 and
> > > Appendix D).
> > >
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, Russell's attempt to derive quantum mechanics from the
> > > plenum of all possible bit strings failed at the first step. So you
> don't
> > > have much support from this.
> > >
> >
> > I would be very interested to see this, do you recall the subject or time
> > frame of this discussion?
>
> The subject thread was "Do Observer Moments form a Vecor Space?". The
> misspelling of Vector might help find the thread.
>

Thank you! I will catch up on this thread.


>
> Actually, "failing at the first step" was not my recollection of the
> discussion. Bruce had some important critiques, the most important of
> which is that the linear span of projected states L(ψₐ) that is used
> for defining the inner product (D.9) is, well, as arbitrary as the
> originally chosen observable A.
>
> My first cut at an answer to this tried to identify the everything
> with the origin of the vector space - which had a nice property that
> a complex field was required in order for some non-everything states
> not to collapse to the origin. However, that approach ultimately ran
> into a problem with non-orthonormalisability of the basis states. So I
> tried an alternate approach with the everything being a primitive
> direction in the vector space, and all subsets of the everything being
> orthogonal to it. This had some very nice properties, including the
> subset measure being given by the square of the vector norm, and that
> the vector space is a vector (or spectral) measure, the most general
> kind of measure there is. But lost was the nice requirement for the
> field to be complex, which was always a bit of a problem with the
> original derivation.
>
> I've been meaning to get this in publishable form, but time and other
> commitments have gotten in my way.
>
>
I (and I know many others on this list and elsewhere) eagerly await and
look forward this.


> In the meantime, Bruce thought he had a proof this was impossible to
> do (ie a vector space representation of the powerset of bitstrings that
> gives rise to the Born rule). However, he has yet to present his
> proof. My work mentioned above, appears to be a counterexample.
>
> In the meantime, another problem came to my attention from Markus
> Mueller (arxiv:1712.0181), where he points out that it is an open
> question whether transition probability for process on strings is
> naturally Markovian. The latter portion of my proof, in particular
> (D.13) is assuming a Markovian process.
>
>

Thanks for the reference, I will check it out.

Might combining your theory with a theory of computation (like the UDA) be
helpful in linking or otherwise tying together successively observed bit
strings?

I found the book "Trespassing on Einstein's Lawn
<https://www.amazon.com/Trespassing-Einsteins-Lawn-Beginning-Everything/dp/B011DALEW8/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_14_t_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=QRMCP2GEE90YCNEKJ2YN>"
to be quite remarkable in breaking down the laws of physics to being the
bare minimum that is necessary to ensure consistency between observers. It
might be a fruitful avenue to explore, as it seems at least possibly
related to your effort.

Jason

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