Somebody wrote: > > *That's what determinism means. It means EVERYTHING IS DETERMINED BY > THE PAST. *
Yes, deterministic means the laws of physics are deterministic, but Super Determinism claims much much more than that. Even if you knew all the deterministic laws of physics perfectly that would not be nearly enough to uniquely determine the present because it also depends on initial conditions and the ultimate initial condition was the one at the Big Bang. Super Determinism says that although the number of initial conditions the universe could have started out in is an astronomical number to an astronomical power we just happen to be living in the one and only configuration where after 13.8 billion years of deterministic cosmic evolution events unfolded in the one and only way that humans would always be fooled and cause them to draw incorrect conclusions whenever they performed Bell type experiments. Well, I can't prove the idea is wrong obviously, the universe has seen to that, but to turn to Super Determinism because Many Worlds is too strange seems a bit nuts to me. And if scientists really believed it they should just give up because experimental science would be impossible. Hmm... but now that I think of it maybe Many Worlds and Super Determinism are BOTH true. Many Worlds says everything that could happen did happen, and although ridiculously unlikely Super Determinism *could* happen if deterministic laws of physics could happen. I don’t know if they could or not but even if such deterministic laws do exist in some universe the probability that we just happen to be living in the one that had such a super mega ultra rare initial condition is not exactly large. > > > *You've anthropomorphized the universe.* You almost make that sound like a bad thing. > > > The universe doesn't conspire or do anything, it just is. > I can't prove it but if Super Determinism is true that would sure smell like a conspiracy to me! John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
