> On 26 Jun 2018, at 03:59, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 8:04 PM, Jason Resch <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > >Study what diophantine equations are capable of (for example, considers > the examples I provided in my original post), and you will see they possess > an unlimited working memory. > > I did and I'll be damned if I understand how all the Diophantine equations in > the world put together can store one bit of information,
That is explained with all details in Matiyazevic's book. > much less a unlimited amount, you certainly never said how on earth they > could do it, and the scientists at Intel can't figure out how to do it either > that's why they're still using silicon. That is not relevant, as with mechanism, silicon is a material illusion brought by the first person plural indeterminacy. > > > I also recommend reading Gregory Chaitin's book > > Gregory Chaitin is on record saying that he doesn't think the Real Numbers > exist, and his book describes calculations but it can't make calculations any > better than the books Bruno recommends. A book cannot do a computation. But a book can provide explanation why the notion of computation is a purely mathematical notion, indeed, a purely arithmetical one. Bruno > > > Special relativity strongly suggests that our physical existence is > similarly timeless, it is unchanging and unchangeable, a static > four-dimensional block universe. > > If we're talking about consciousness its irrelevant what things are like from > a objective viewpoint because subjectively time is the single most important > characteristic of existence. > > >If, as you say, anything goes, why are the only solutions to the Fibonacci > yielding Diophantine equation I posted, only crank out the correct answers? > > Those equations don't crank out anything unless there is matter to form a > crank and energy to turn the crank, otherwise the equations just sit on the > printed page inert and dead. > > >Why does the Deep-Blue equation, only crank out the correct chess move > that Deep Blue would make? > > The Deep-Blue equation doesn't crank out anything either unless its put into > Deep Blue machine. And even then nothing will happen unless the machine is > connected to the electrical power grid. > > >Recursive functions often have the property of slightly permuting the > input with each invocation. > > And each invocation requires matter and each invocation requires energy. > > >John Conway's game of life exists in the world of pure numbers > > No it does not. Conway invented the game using hos physical brain. And the > like pattern remains static unless it's run on a computer or laboriously > computed by a human and played by hand. Hawking asked "What is it that > breathes fire into the equations?", the answer is matter and energy. > > John K Clark > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
