From: *Bruno Marchal* <marc...@ulb.ac.be <mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be>>
On 11 Aug 2018, at 02:57, Bruce Kellett <bhkell...@optusnet.com.au
<mailto:bhkell...@optusnet.com.au>> wrote:
From: *Bruno Marchal* <marc...@ulb.ac.be <mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be>>
You are the one telling that the Bell’s inequality violation entails
FTL influence. Personally, I do not dig on that issue, because I use
only Everett QM to evaluate what mechanism predicts. I might try to
send a post why I do not follow your critic of Tipler and Baylock,
some day.
That would be useful. I was perhaps dismissive of Tipler and Baylock
because their analyses were so obviously incorrect -- for different
reasons, however.
Nothing is obvious here. The debate is far from finished.
Tipler simply collapsed the non-separable state without realizing
that that was a non-local operation.
I would suggest you elaborate on this in your paper. I see the non
local consideration, but I do not see any FTL appearing from that. The
EPR-Bell type of experience is non local, and bear on non separable
entities, but only the collapse makes them into physical
FTL/instantaneity.
If you see the non-locality in Tipler's account, why is there still an
issue about non-locality? You are the only one obsessed about physical
FTL. I have repeatedly stressed that there is no physical FTL or
instantaneous transfer of physical information. It is epistemological.
As you say, EPR-Bell bear on non-separable states. That is all there is
to it. When you interact with a non-separable state you destroy the
symmetry and make it separable. There need not be any collapse or
physical FTL.
Baylock made valiant attempts to introduce some measurements that
were not made in order to show that Bell assumed counterfactual
definiteness, but his attempts to reconstruct Bell's arguments in
this way were so contrived as to be laughable -- Bell's result does
not depend on the assumption of counterfactual definiteness.
You have not et convince me.
Why does Baylock introduce unnecessary references to experiments that
were not performed? If you can think of any reason other than a silly
attempt to deflect Bell's theorem, then tell me.
Bruce
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