> On 15 Aug 2018, at 12:22, [email protected] wrote:
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> On Wednesday, August 15, 2018 at 9:58:57 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> > On 14 Aug 2018, at 22:12, Brent Meeker <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> > wrote: 
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> > On 8/14/2018 3:54 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: 
> >> How do you explain interference fringes in the two slits? How do you 
> >> explain the different behaviour of u+d and a mixture of u and d. 
> >> 
> >> If the wave is not real, how doe it interfere even when we are not there? 
> > 
> > How does it interfere with itself unless it goes through both slits in the 
> > same world...thus being non-local. 
> 
> The wave is a trans-world notion. You should better see it as a wave of 
> histories/worlds, than a wave in one world. I don’t think “one world” is well 
> defined enough to make sense in both Everett and Mechanism. 
> 
> If you start with the error that all possible results of a measurement must 
> be realized, you can't avoid many worlds.


A(u+d) = A-see-u u + A-see-d d, and without collapse, you get both Alice's (A) 
experience realised in the wave. If from “A-see-u u + A-see-d d” you select one 
branch, you are using the collapse axiom.






> Then, if you fall in love with the implications of this error, you are firmly 
> in woo-woo land with the prime directive of bringing as many as possible into 
> this illusion / delusion. This is where we're at IMO. AG 


No. I expected this to happens in case mechanism is true, without the need of 
any books in physics, or observation (other than amoebas). All computations are 
emulated in arithmetic. Just this is enough to doubt there is even one physical 
universe. In fact, when I read the book in physics, I ahem thought that the 
collapse postulate was a physical facts. It looks me to read EPR and Everett to 
realise that the physical reality looks so much like Mechanism predicts it 
should be.
The fact that arithmetic semantically emulated all computations is known since 
the 1930s, but apparently still ignored by most.

Bruno



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