On Wednesday, August 15, 2018 at 2:41:12 PM UTC, Jason wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, August 15, 2018, <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > >> >> >> On Wednesday, August 15, 2018 at 11:49:04 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 15 Aug 2018, at 12:36, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, August 15, 2018 at 10:22:40 AM UTC, [email protected] >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, August 15, 2018 at 9:58:57 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > On 14 Aug 2018, at 22:12, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On 8/14/2018 3:54 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>>>> >> How do you explain interference fringes in the two slits? How do >>>>> you explain the different behaviour of u+d and a mixture of u and d. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> If the wave is not real, how doe it interfere even when we are not >>>>> there? >>>>> > >>>>> > How does it interfere with itself unless it goes through both slits >>>>> in the same world...thus being non-local. >>>>> >>>>> The wave is a trans-world notion. You should better see it as a wave >>>>> of histories/worlds, than a wave in one world. I don’t think “one world” >>>>> is >>>>> well defined enough to make sense in both Everett and Mechanism. >>>>> >>>> >>>> *If you start with the error tGhat all possible results of a >>>> measurement must be realized, you can't avoid many worlds. Then, if you >>>> fall in love with the implications of this error, you are firmly in >>>> woo-woo >>>> land with the prime directive of bringing as many as possible into this >>>> illusion / delusion. This is where we're at IMO. AG * >>>> >>> >>> *Truthfully, I don't know why, when you do a slit experiment one >>> particle at a time, the result is quantum interference. It might be because >>> particles move as waves and each particle goes through both slits. In any >>> event, I don't see the MWI is a solution to this problem. It just takes us >>> down a deeper rabbit hole. AG* >>> >>> >>> Everything is in the formalism, as well exemplified by the two slits. If >>> you miss this, then consider the quantum algorithm by Shor. There, a >>> “particle” is not just going through two slits, but participate in >>> parallel, yet different computations, and we get an indirect evidence by >>> the information we can extract from a quantum Fourier transform on all >>> results obtained in the parallel branches. >>> >> >> *No. It's all nonsense. AG * >> >>> >>> > No it's something you can already buy and use today: > > > > https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/10/ibm-passes-major-milestone-with-20-and-50-qubit-quantum-computers-as-a-service/ > > Jason >
*If you're referring to my critique of the standard quantum interpretation of the superposition of states -- that a system in a superposition is in ALL component states SIMULTANEOUSLY -- show me where that INTERPRETATION is used in quantum computers. I know it isn't used to calculate probabilities in quantum theory. It's a postulate which is NOT used, so by Occam Razor it should be eliminated. AGWRT the MWI, it's too tortured and extravagant to be in the ballpark of reality. AG* > If you can explain all this without FTL in one unique physical reality, >>> then write a paper and publish, you will be famous. >>> >>> Bruno >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Bruno >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> > Brent >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>>>> >>>>> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
