On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 2:44:18 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 28 Sep 2018, at 00:34, [email protected] <javascript:> wrote: > > Hello I think this good forum for this topic - what do you think about > Mathematical Universe, there are very big arguments for that hypothesis: > > > Yes, it was proved as a consequence of the Mechanist Hypothesis (well > before Tegmark introduced it as an hypothesis). > > > > > - applicability of mathematic, to natural sciences > - all we discovere are structures and I didnt find explanation of the > diference beetwen physical structures and mathematical structures. > > > What Tegmark missed is the first person indeterminacy, which makes the > physical reality into a sort of statistics on *all* mathematical > structures. The physical reality is not a mathematical structure among > others, but a precise mathematical phenomenon, occurring in arithmetic. > > > > > > > - scientists and philosophers of science tend to affirm belive in diverse > structure and homogeneous substance (neutral monism) or mathematicism vide > Ladyman, Ross, French, Tegmark etc. > > What are your thoughts. > > > If mechanism is false, both substantial physicalism and non substantial > physicalism are wrong. Mechanism, in the cognitive science, makes the > physical reality not Turing emulbale (“digital physics” is incoherent). > Physics becomes reducible to machine’s psychology, or better, machine or > number theology. Unfortunately a giant gap remain between physicists (who > have the right question, but an inadequate metaphysics) and logician (who > have the right tool but run away from theology and metaphysics). > > The main advantage in using Mechanism (properly) is that incompleteness > justified all the modes of the self, and this makes possible to get a > precise theory of quanta and qualia. > > In this list, we are a bit in advance on this, to be short. I can give > references if asked. Actually I just gave them in some preceding posts. > > What some people missed, is that there has never been any evidence for > Aristotelian Primary Matter. Materialism will be abandoned as a lasting > supersitition. > > Bruno > > > > On the other side it is held that numbers - universal numbers - actually exist (arithmeticalism) is superstition.
Even the texts in which the definition of the universal numbers appear are material: They are seen as electronic dots on a screen in a PDF viewer, or ink glyphs on paper in a printout, etc. But there is nothing more than that . There is nothing outside matter. (Materialism is not physicalism.) - pt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
