On 12/15/2018 5:42 PM, Jason Resch wrote:

    hh, but diophantine equations only need integers, addition, and
    multiplication, and can define any computable function. Therefore
    the question of whether or not some diophantine equation has a
    solution can be made equivalent to the question of whether some
    Turing machine halts.  So you face this problem of getting at all
    the truth once you can define integers, addition and multiplication.

    There's no surprise that you can't get at all true statements
    about a system  that is defined to be infinite.


But you can always prove more true statements with a better system of axioms.  So clearly the axioms are not the driving force behind truth.


And you can prove more false statements with a "better" system of axioms...which was my original point.  So axioms are not a "force behind truth"; they are a force behind what is provable.

Brent

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