On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 7:06 PM Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 1:50 AM Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 5:59 PM Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> What I am curious to know is how how many of these statements you agree >>> with: >>> >>> "2+2 = 4" was true: >>> 1. Before I was born >>> 2. Before humans formalized axioms and found a proof of it >>> 3. Before there were humans >>> 4. Before there was any conscious life in this universe >>> 5. As soon as there were 4 physical things to count >>> 6. Before the big bang / before there were 4 physical things >>> >> >> "2+2=4" is a tautology, true because of the meanings of the terms >> involved. So its truth is not independent of the formulation of the >> question and the definition of the terms involved. >> > > So would you say it was false before it was asked and the terms defined? > The true/false dichotomy is not applicable to undefined terms. As in QM, "Unperformed experiments have no results!" > Was the 10^100th bit of Pi set only at such time that Pi was defined, or > did it have a set value before humans defined Pi? > Before pi was defined, the question had no meaning. Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
