> On 17 Dec 2018, at 11:06, Philip Thrift <cloudver...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 3:45:41 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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>> On 15 Dec 2018, at 18:20, Philip Thrift <cloud...@gmail.com <javascript:>> 
>> wrote:
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>> On Saturday, December 15, 2018 at 10:44:41 AM UTC-6, Jason wrote:
>>  Kids in school are taught the digits of Pi go on forever.
>> 
>> Also known as religious indoctrination.
> 
> What ? 
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> 
> 
> That's precisely the subject of Professor Zeilberger's lecture below. He says 
> exactly that, right at the beginning.
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> 
> But certainly you have read his essays over the years:
> http://sites.math.rutgers.edu/~zeilberg/OPINIONS.html
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> 
>  
> 
> Incidentally I just answered this on QUORA: 
> 
> https://www.quora.com/How-can-pi-be-a-never-ending-number-when-it-is-used-to-define-a-circle/answer/Bruno-Marchal?ch=1&share=4236c19d&srid=jtPK&fbclid=IwAR1-ut9q-nbv6rrYZhgsCVWdEjyNxyL2FDt9ehsKNCZjRNWFPsyRjgh4-18
>  
> <https://www.quora.com/How-can-pi-be-a-never-ending-number-when-it-is-used-to-define-a-circle/answer/Bruno-Marchal?ch=1&share=4236c19d&srid=jtPK&fbclid=IwAR1-ut9q-nbv6rrYZhgsCVWdEjyNxyL2FDt9ehsKNCZjRNWFPsyRjgh4-18>
> 
> Mathematics is where the “indoctrination” is minimal. All the means of 
> understanding are given.
> 
> Are you saying that PI has a finite number of decimal, or that its 
> irrationality is taught to kids without proof?
> 
> Bruno
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> Teaching kids math is "real" (Platonism) is a form of brainwashing!
>  
>  
> Mathematics is Indeed a Religion, But It has too Many Sects! 
> 
>> here:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5j-fVqhRHA 
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5j-fVqhRHA>
>> 
> 
> 


The video is nice, except that the guy seems deaf and shout his words …

Mathematics has deep relation with theology, no doubt, but is not a religion by 
itself, unless you add some metaphysical hypothesis. With mechanism added, the 
arithmetical truth does get a religious aspect, because we understand that we 
cannot define it without assuming a bigger thing that we cannot define.

Bruno





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