On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 3:33 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Monday, December 24, 2018 at 4:22:24 AM UTC, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> On Monday, December 24, 2018 at 3:50:33 AM UTC, Brent wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/23/2018 4:47 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>> *If by "flat", you mean mathematically flat, like a plane extending
>>> infinitely in all directions, as opposed to asymptotically flat like a huge
>>> and expanding sphere,  you have to reconcile an infinitesimally tiny
>>> universe at the time of the BB, and simultaneously an infinitely large
>>> universe extending infinitely in all directions. AG*
>>>
>>>
>>> All that's "infinitesimally tiny" is the visible universe.  You must
>>> know that the Friedmann equation just defines the dynamics of a scale
>>> factor, not a size.
>>>
>>
>> *Are you claiming the visible universe at the BB was infinitesimally
>> tiny, but the non visible part was infinitely large (mathematically flat),
>> or huge (asymptotically flat)? AG *
>>
>
> *Bruce says the universe is always flat if k=1. How can it be everywhere
> flat if there's a region which is infinitely tiny; hence not flat in the
> visible region? How are we to imagine this? TIA, AG *
>

That's a bit confused. k=0 corresponds to a universe that is everywhere
flat (in space, but not necessarily in the time dimension - i.e., it might
be expanding. Our current visible universe originated in a small (tiny)
region of the total structure, which might be infinite in extent, but flat
everywhere, even in our tiny region.

Bruce

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