This might be of interest: 
http://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2018/08/the-creation-emergence-of-species.html
 

> On 24-Apr-2019, at 2:16 PM, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I don't know. These are problems to be solved. But notice that consciousness 
> doesn't need "fruits" per se, but it needs whatever reality is behind the 
> appearance of "fruits". Why it needs that I don't know.
> 
>> On Wednesday, 24 April 2019 11:10:06 UTC+3, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> All of which do not exists... why would consciousness need anything like 
>> that as things like fruits, trees, electrons do not exists according to you ?
>> 
>> Also why do you use evolution ? why do things need to evolve at all ? 
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