Le mer. 24 avr. 2019 à 15:57, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < [email protected]> a écrit :
> > > On Wednesday, 24 April 2019 16:46:33 UTC+3, John Clark wrote: >> >> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 9:08 AM 'Cosmin Visan' < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> > *This is not the reason why AI is not conscious.* >>> >> >> The "I" in AI stands for intelligence not consciousness, do you believe a >> AI can be intelligent? And by "intelligent" I mean whatever you meant >> when, as I'm sure you've said at some point in your life about another >> human, "that guy is really smart". >> > > Intelligence is the property of consciousness of bringing new qualia into > existence that never existed before in the entire history of existence. > Don't you think this is quite unlike the fantasy of AI ? > >> >> >>> *> The reason is that AI doesn't even exist, is just an idea in >>> consciousness. Consciousness which of course is not made out of atoms.* >>> >> >> Consciousness is made of processes, that's why John K Clark is not a noun >> but an adjective, I am the way matter behaves when it is organized in a >> johnkclarkian way. A process needs something to process and that something >> is atoms. That's why if I change the arrangement of atoms in my brain my >> consciousness changes and if my consciousness changes the arrangement of >> atoms in my brain changes. >> > > "Matter" doesn't exist. "Matter" is an idea in consciousness. > >> >> >>> > *We are not made out of atoms. * >>> >> >> What's with this "we" business? I know for a fact I'm conscious but your >> consciousness is an unproven hypothesis no different from assuming an AI is >> conscious. >> > > Is not at all the same thing. Other consciousnesses are postulated based > on our own consciousness, while AI is postulated based on poor > understanding of reality. Postulating AI is like a child postulating Santa > Claus because he has not serious understanding of the matters involved in > the concept of "Santa Claus". > > -- > Could you share your *serious* thinking on our santa claus belief to us unserious people ? > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. (Roy Batty/Rutger Hauer) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
