> On 23 Apr 2019, at 19:52, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List > <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Actually, this is precisely what existence is: that which is immediately > knowable. I see red, thus red exists.
I see red, so certainly the experience of seeing red exists. I can agree with that. But it is not existence which I see, it is my own consciousness. “Existence” has no meaning if we don’t say what exists, or it means, if taken in your sense, that you define “existence” by consciousness, but that is not the usual sense of existence. What I mean, is that we say that existence is immediately knowable, people will me mislead into believing that what we see exist. If I see something red, “seing red” exists, but it does not mean that it exists a red thing, only an experience of red can be said to exist. I might see a red unicorn, for example, in some dream. Bruno PS busy days, apology for possible delays in my answer. I have to go now. > > On Friday, 19 April 2019 12:21:10 UTC+3, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > I doubt that existence is immediately knowable, etc. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com > <mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
