I see the coin made (as the ones lying on my desk right now made of metal) 
of matter.

The two sides of the coin (of matter) are *physical *and *psychical*:

https://codicalist.wordpress.com/2019/01/22/matter-gets-psyched/


If ὕ – the first Greek letter for “hyle”, upsilon (υ) with diacritics dasia 
and oxia (U+1F55) – is used for the symbol of matter, φ (phi) for physical, 
+ ψ (psi) for psychical, then


           ὕ = φ + ψ
 

(i.e., the combination of *physical* and *psychical* properties is a more 
complete view of what matter is). The physical is the (quantitative) 
behavioral aspect of matter – the kind that is formulated in mathematical 
language in current physics, for example – whereas the psychical is the 
(qualitative) experiential aspect of matter, at various levels, from brains 
on down. There is no reason in principle for only φ to the considered by 
science and for ψ to be ignored by science.

@philipthrift



On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 2:10:05 PM UTC-5, Terren Suydam wrote:
>
> I see them as two sides of the same coin - as in, you don't get one 
> without the other.
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 3:00 PM <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> If "consciousness doesn't supervene on physical [or material] 
>> computation" then does that mean there is realm for (A) consciousness and 
>> one for (B) physical [or material] computation?
>>
>> Is A like some spirit or ghost that invades the domain of B? Or does B 
>> invade A?
>>
>> @philipthrift
>>
>>

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