If you "combine" Finitist Set Theory with Locally Finite Theories, what you 
get is a version of Axiom of Infinity with "processes" creating bigger and 
bigger sets with gaps in them.

@philipthrift

On Thursday, May 23, 2019 at 11:34:21 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
> This seems to be a strengthening of elementary finite set theory, which is 
> the theory of Zermelo minus the axiom of infinity.
>
> The theory of Zermelo is ZF without the Replacement Axioms (needed to 
> compare the well-ordering and the ordinals) and without the foundation 
> axioms (when we reject set belonging to themselves).
>
> I would not say that set theory is used for the foundation of mathematics. 
> It is mainly a theory on the infinities, lurking toward the inconsistent 
> big unnameable one. Sort of vertical theological shortcut. 
>
> Elementary finite set theory is Turing complete (Turing universal).
>
>  It is a set theoretic version of something between RA and PA.
>
> It is a universal machinery with its universal machines, and all others.
>
> It is a what I call a universal number. Each one has its application and 
> purpose “in life”.
>
> God loves them all
>
> (I guess)
>
> Bruno
>
>
>
>
> On 22 May 2019, at 22:08, Philip Thrift <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
> Finitist Set Theory
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finitist_set_theory
>
> "The goal of an engineer who applies FST is to select axioms which yield a 
> model that is one-one correlated with a target domain that is to be modeled 
> by FST, such as a range of chemical compounds or social constructions that 
> are found in nature. ... An applied FST model is always the minimal model 
> which satisfies the applied axioms. This guarantees that those and only 
> those elements exist in the applied model which are explicitly constructed 
> by the selected axioms: only those urs [ 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urelement ] exist which are stated to exist 
> by assigning their number, and only those sets exist which are constructed 
> by the selected axioms; no other elements exist in addition to these."
>
> From:
> Finitist set theory in ontological modeling
> Avril Styrman & Aapo Halko, University of Helsinki
> Applied Ontology  (2018)
>
> Abstract
> "This article introduces finitist set theory (FST) and shows how it can be 
> applied in modeling finite nested structures. Mereology is a 
> straightforward foundation for transitive chains of part-whole relations 
> between individuals but is incapable of modeling antitransitive chains. 
> Traditional set theories are capable of modeling transitive and 
> antitransitive chains of relations, but due to their function as 
> foundations of mathematics they come with features that make them 
> unnecessarily difficult in modeling finite structures. FST has been 
> designed to function as a practical tool in modeling transitive and 
> antitransitive chains of relations without suffering from difficulties of 
> traditional set theories, and a major portion of the functionality of 
> discrete mereology can be incorporated in FST. This makes FST a viable 
> collection theory in ontological modeling."
>
>
> Relation of finitist sets to processes:
>
> The term 'partition level' and the recursive definition of n-member are 
> adapted from: 
> - Seibt, J. (2015) Non-transitive parthood, leveled mereology, and the 
> representation of emergent parts of processes. 
> - Seibt, J. (2009). Forms of emergent interaction in general process 
> theory. 
>
>
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/220607682_Forms_of_emergent_interaction_in_General_Process_Theory
>
> "General Process Theory (GPT) is a new (non-Whiteheadian) process 
> ontology. According to GPT the domains of scientific inquiry and everyday 
> practice consist of configurations of ‘goings-on’ or ‘dynamics’ that can be 
> technically defined as concrete, dynamic, non-particular individuals called 
> general processes. The paper offers a brief introduction to GPT in order to 
> provide ontological foundations for research programs such as interactivism 
> that centrally rely on the notions of ‘process,’ ‘interaction,’ and 
> ‘emergence.’ I begin with an analysis of our common sense concept of 
> activities, which plays a crucial heuristic role in the development of the 
> notion of a general process. General processes are not individuated in 
> terms of their location but in terms of ‘what they do,’ i.e., in terms of 
> their dynamic relationships in the basic sense of one process being part of 
> another. The formal framework of GPT is thus an extensional mereology, 
> albeit a non-classical theory with a non-transitive part-relation. After a 
> brief sketch of basic notions and strategies of the GPT-framework I show 
> how the latter may be applied to distinguish between causal, mechanistic, 
> functional, self-maintaining, and recursively self-maintaining 
> interactions, all of which involve ‘emergent phenomena’ in various senses 
> of the term."
>
> cf. Locally Finite Theories
> https://www.jstor.org/stable/2273942
>
> @philipthrift
>
>
>

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