> On 30 May 2019, at 19:48, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On 5/30/2019 12:02 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>> Mathematicians homogeninize the concept. Even strong atheism is a theology 
>> as it claims that “there is no God”, which is a theological proposition.
> 
> That is a misrepresentation of atheism.  Atheists claim "there is no reason 
> believe there is a God”.

Yes, but they believe only in the post 529 Aristotelian-Christian notion of 
God. 

Then I am atheist too.

But if you read the “Element of Theology” by Proclus, you can see that during a 
millenium, theology was a branch of scientific research. And I use “god” in 
that original sense.

With that definition, atheism does no more make sense or become a form of 
nihilism or irrationalism, as God is defined by whatever is the reason why we 
are here and now, and that we search. 

Now, I have decided to stop using the nuance “agnostic atheism” and “non 
agnostic atheism”, and use instead agnosticism and atheism instead, as all 
self)called atheist I ahem met believes in physicalism, consciously or not, and 
most of them even believe that God des not exist, which is far different that 
not believing in God.


> Brent
> "Atheism is a belief system the way "Off" is a TV channel."
>     --- George Carlin

That is what they claim in theory, but in practice that is not the case, given 
that they fight on all theologies, not just the christian one. They dismiss a 
millenium of progress in the filed (read Proclus!) and they defend exactly the 
same metaphysics than christians. Atheism is, in absolute value, the same as 
christianism, but in a radical form.

Bruno




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