I agree, Alan... Anecdotes are a starting point. But we have a good
handle on phenomena of the normal variety, including chemical, physical,
mathematical, and the like - including our own objects falling from the
sky!! The tireless work of CSICOP Michael Shermer, Randi, Ray Hyman, and
hundreds more - to take claims of the paranormal and investigate them,
has pretty well put the subject to bed.... Even the acronym, CSICOP,
tells the story: _C_ommittee for _S_cientific _I_nvestifation of
_C_laims of the _P_aranormal.
Only true believers like Cosmin, who don't investigate, are doomed to
hop from anecdote to anecdote and keep believing
Cheers! Howard Marks
On 6/10/2019 4:56 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:
On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 3:24:11 PM UTC-6, howardmarks wrote:
The statistics of ZERO is not mine, it's a worldwide finding by
many people after much hard work. Phenomena needs to be
demonstrable --- not mere fart-gas testimony or journal submissions.
CSICOP/CSI/Skeptical Inquirer/Shermer/Hyman/Randi/(and this list
is endless) - all got ZERO. Investigate that NIH article
author.... call em... you won't find anyone that can perform....
even statistically. Prove us wrong. If you don't, and stick to
anecdotes, then you may as well adhere to beliefs of magical
powers that deities have.
*For most of mankind's existence, there were anecdotes that stones
fall from the sky, but it wasn't until the mid-19th century in France
that one fell through a farmhouse roof and was convincing. So I
wouldn't discount anecdotes unless you have a debunking agenda. AG*
*
*
Next you will be telling us that intercessional prayer works to
heal people.
... pointing to the church's pubs on it.... or that the shroud of
Turin is really the wrapping from Jesus.... Go check a doc yourself.
On 6/10/2019 3:49 PM, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List wrote:
You probably are mentally ill or something if even in the face of
evidence you continue to say ZERO. Go check a doctor.
On Monday, 10 June 2019 22:34:31 UTC+3, howardmarks wrote:
NO exceptions, has ZERO hits
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