On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 7:35:27 AM UTC-5, Pierz wrote:
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>> More relations, more food, better survival, sustainability, more access 
>> to more resources, more sophisticated approaches to ethics and problems of 
>> evil and law seem sexier than betting everything on a single ontological 
>> horse and policing its dance moves. 
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> Sure - except we *have, *as a society, bet everything on a single 
> ontological horse, and we *do* police its dance moves. There's one giant 
> ontological horse in town, in case you haven't noticed, and its name is 
> Materialism. And so I say, yes, let a thousand flowers bloom! But in order 
> to do that, we need to kill that damn horse. Then we might begin to 
> properly honour the true depth of meaning in this world, the subterranean 
> connections of karma, and the stories that shape the whole thing. I like to 
> think a relational ontology would give a lot more horses a lot more space 
> to dance.
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What about just an ontology that includes *real experiences* (or qualia), 
that are *nonphysical* in the sense of being *outside of physics* (as 
practiced today)?

@philipthrift

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