On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 4:15:43 AM UTC+2, Pierz wrote:
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> Of course, a purely relational ontology necessarily involves an infinite 
> regress of relationships, but it seems to me that we must choose our poison 
> here - the magic of intrinsic properties, or the infinite regress of only 
> relational ones. I prefer the latter.
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I wouldn't say that the former is "magic" but I would say that the latter 
doesn't seem to make sense :) There can be relations between relations, or 
relations between structures/sets of relations, but there must also be 
non-relations in which all relations are ultimately grounded. Without 
non-relations, the whole edifice of relations seems to collapse because the 
relations are ultimately undefined. This is not a problem of an infinite 
chain of objects or of a circular chain of objects; the problem is that the 
objects (relations) are undefined.

But I would not say that non-relations are more fundamental or real than 
relations or vice versa. Rather I would say that one cannot exist without 
the other; they are on the same ontological footing, so to speak. 

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