> On 20 Jun 2019, at 20:43, spudboy100 via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well, they defame themselves, and successfully bribe politicians. > Interestingly, they have all, regardless of party, in the US, have left the > nationalist camp. entirely. This will cause an effect, opening the path for > antitrust laws. Barring this, the legality of how the 1st amendment in the US > is affected, will come into play.
OK. Bruno > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> > To: everything-list <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu, Jun 20, 2019 6:17 am > Subject: Re: Allah: the One and Only Deity > > >> On 19 Jun 2019, at 05:15, spudboy100 via Everything List >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> >> Oh, why not both, > > OK. > > >> especially when that defender of freedom, Zuck pushes his Libra :-) ? > > > Zuck, and not just him, is confronted to the not easy delineation between > freedom of speech and defamation. > > Bruno > > > >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bruno Marchal <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> To: everything-list <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2019 5:52 am >> Subject: Re: Allah: the One and Only Deity >> >> >>> On 13 Jun 2019, at 19:19, spudboy100 via Everything List >>> <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Yes Bruno, back in the day, one of my college profs termed ideologies, to >>> be a faith movement. >> >> I would say that ideologues are blind faith, or dogma. Ideas are better, but >> faith is personal, and we need it to go out of bed every morning. >> >> >>> Hence, Lysenko, Stalin, Mao, and in my view, progressivism (like Juncker, >>> like Soros) push for their faith movement. >> >> Faith movement makes no sense, but I guess I quibble on vocabulary here. >> >> >> >>> That is my dig, but also an honest observation. As we say in the US, >>> ideologists aren't playing with a full deck. >> >> Yes, it is “bad faith”, or just a trick to steal your money. >> >> Bruno >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Bruno Marchal <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> To: everything-list <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> Sent: Thu, Jun 13, 2019 7:27 am >>> Subject: Re: Allah: the One and Only Deity >>> >>> >>>> On 12 Jun 2019, at 05:09, spudboy100 via Everything List >>>> <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> iI like the Pastafatians. However I am not against religion, just the >>>> mentality of the fanatic. >>>> Fanaticism usually means If you don't obey us, we will kill you >>>> This mentality is not just hugely, seen, among the Islamists. >>>> But also, their political chums, the Progressives (socialists & communists >>>> who are funded by billionaires) >>>> There is also, surprisingly to myself, great self-righteousness expressed >>>> by this lot, in excess, of the Christian fundamentalist. >>>> Beyond this, if Atheism works for you? Spectacular. If doing religious >>>> craps allow one to enjoy some psycho-social activity? Splendid. >>>> I do love Outre' observations by some physicists, because it permits our >>>> species to break free. I mean it's physics, it's either going to work or >>>> not, right? On the other hand, a gigantic budget would be required to test >>>> some conjectures. >>> >>> Yes, the problem is not any domain per se, but the fanaticism of those who >>> claim to know the truth, again, that works for any domain. >>> >>> But sometimes, a political authoritative regime choose some domain to make >>> truth claim, like Lyssenko in USSR genetics, or like with the frequent use >>> of religion by unscrupulous manipulators. >>> >>> People who claim not having a religion are usually people not aware of >>> their hypotheses. They take something fro granted, unconsciously. It is >>> normal, as we have plausibly been “programmed” in that way, for survival >>> purposes. >>> >>> Bruno >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Philip Thrift <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>> To: Everything List <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>> Sent: Tue, Jun 11, 2019 4:07 pm >>>> Subject: Re: Allah: the One and Only Deity >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 2:31:52 PM UTC-5, [email protected] >>>> <http://aol.com/> wrote: >>>> "One man's theology is another man's belly laugh." -Lazarus Long aka >>>> Robert Heinlein >>>> >>>> >>>> There is a religion called Comedism: >>>> >>>> >>>> via Steve Gimbel >>>> https://www.gettysburg.edu/academic-programs/philosophy/faculty/employee_detail.dot?empId=02000322920013381&pageTitle=Steve+Gimbel >>>> >>>> <https://www.gettysburg.edu/academic-programs/philosophy/faculty/employee_detail.dot?empId=02000322920013381&pageTitle=Steve+Gimbel> >>>> >>>> >>>> Comedism: The New Religion >>>> Steve Gimbel >>>> Professor of Philosophy, Gettysburg College >>>> >>>> >>>> Origins >>>> >>>> It all started with a couple of experiences in the classroom. The first >>>> was when I was teaching a night class in ethics at a local community >>>> college. I was drawing the distinction between social mores and ethical >>>> precepts when a students raised his hand and asked, "Steve, what are >>>> mores?" I looked at him and responded, "When the moon hits your eye like a >>>> big pizza pie, that's a more." At that moment, I realized that set ups >>>> that perfect don't just happen randomly, it had to be humorous divine >>>> intervention. I had been touched. >>>> >>>> Then a few years later, I was teaching philosophy of religion at the >>>> United States Naval Academy when I had my second insight. If you want to >>>> go anywhere in the religion industry these days, you have to be either >>>> Mother Teresa or Pat Robertson -- and neither seemed attractive career >>>> paths. But when you look at a number of those who are most exalted, they >>>> fit neither model. Abraham pimps out his wife to the Egyptian army, the >>>> disciples quarrel and quibble about everything. How'd these guys end up on >>>> the fast track to sanctification? They figured out the trick...get in >>>> early. So I realized that my only option was to start own religion. >>>> >>>> Pondering this, I was teaching the tradition Christian arguments for the >>>> existence of God and realized that if the All-Being was to be all perfect, >>>> the traditional criteria of all powerful, all loving, and all knowing were >>>> insufficient...there was a perfect left out...all funny. Would you prefer >>>> to be with someone who had a good sense of humor or no sense of humor? >>>> Surely a perfect being would be omnihumorous! Yet nowhere in the >>>> traditional scriptures of the major religions could you find any real >>>> zingers. Not even a "Knocketh, Knocketh" joke. And so Comedism was born, I >>>> realized it was my job to hear the calling and spread wide the funny news. >>>> >>>> Metaphysical Beliefs >>>> >>>> The basic beliefs of Comedism are not that different from other religions. >>>> Life is fleeting and a test for the hereafter. Like the Buddhists, we >>>> believe that on Earth you strive for a state of bodilessness. You can >>>> foresee this nirvana in the sort of full out belly laugh that you get from >>>> a really good joke. When you laugh so hard that your spirit is ultimately >>>> joyful, but your sides ache, you can't breathe, you roll around on the >>>> floor unable to stand, you realize that it is the humorous soul and not >>>> the things of the body that are important. >>>> >>>> When you die, like Christians, we believe your soul goes up and there >>>> before the pearly gates stands Saint Shecky with his big book. Each of us >>>> is given a number of set ups during our life times and for all those, like >>>> "that's a more," that you convert into jokes, you get one mark in the good >>>> column. But then there are those you miss. Years ago, I was walking and a >>>> couple looked at me strangely. Before they passed the man said to me, >>>> "Didn't we just see you with a dog?" I simply reply, "I'm sorry, you must >>>> have me confused with someone else." But as they were walking away, I >>>> realized the correct response was to retort indignantly, "Excuse me, that >>>> was my wife." I had blown a set up. It was one in the bad column. When you >>>> are judged, if there are more in the good column than in the bad column, >>>> you go to Comedy heaven and sit at Groucho's right hand. If there are more >>>> in the missed than made column, you go to comedy hell where it is always >>>> hot, water is only in dribble glasses, all the chairs have whoopee >>>> cushions, and you have to watch reruns of Three's Company over and over >>>> again for all of eternity. >>>> >>>> Ethics >>>> >>>> We believe that the key to acting well is understanding the nature of the >>>> joke. Jokes have two parts, a set up in which a normal situation you think >>>> you understand is sketched (a chicken crosses a street or the pope, a >>>> rabbi, and a Viagra salesman walk into a bar) and then the punchline that >>>> forces you radically rethink how you understood the world of the set up >>>> (to get to the other side or at least the beer isn't flat anymore). The >>>> humor exists in that moment when your brain is split, trying >>>> unsuccessfully to resolve the tension between the two incompatible >>>> interpretations. The very possibility of a joke presupposes that reality >>>> may always be looked at in more than one way. We must see life as a great >>>> joke -- there are always perspectives other than our own and we must >>>> strive to get the joke by adopting other people's perspectives. As such, >>>> it is impossible for there to be Comedist fundamentalists -- a >>>> fundamentalist is someone who takes a literal interpretation of scripture, >>>> someone who denies that there can be multiple legitimate interpretations, >>>> but this is impossible for a Comedist who believes from the start that >>>> there are ALWAYS multiple interpretations of everything or else it >>>> wouldn't be funny. >>>> >>>> We believe in spreading joy. We believe in overcoming pride through >>>> self-deprecation. We believe through the symbol of the banana peal that >>>> nature provides and must be protected. We believe in gay marriage because >>>> "take my civilly united domestic partner" really screws up the timing. We >>>> believe that April 1st is the holiest day of the year. And we believe that >>>> Cosmic Comedist has revealed the universal joke in our Holy Skripture, the >>>> Comedist Manifesto (well, at least that he will since I haven't gotten >>>> around to writing most of it anyway). >>>> >>>> All you have to do to join is to sing the chorus the next time it comes >>>> around...with feelin'. Comedism is a simple religion to convert to, just >>>> say you are in and you are. 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