On 6/24/2019 6:04 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
The burden of proof always falls to those with extraordinary claims. No other scientists lay claim to the origins of reality.

That was the subject debate by Plato and Aristotle.

Aristotle made the extraordinary claim: there is a physical universe made of primary matter, which was the false obvious fact precisely doubted by Plato. There are never been any proof of this, nor even evidence. We, 20th century human tends to take Aristotle theology for granted, but that is only an habit, I would say.

There was nothing "extraordinary" about it.  The existence of matter and the fact that it could be subdivided into tiny, apparently uniform particles was common observation.  There was no evidence at all for Plato's forms.


The default position is that it is unclear or that we haven't advanced far enough.


I would say that we have regressed a lot on this domain, since theology has been separated from science.

Plato's mysticism led to organized religion and theology as the servant of totalitarian oppression.  As Vic Stenger wrote, "Science flies to the Moon.  Religion flies into buildings."

Brent
“All human progress has been made by studying the shadows on the cave wall.”
   --- Sean Carroll

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