This reflects the two main Vedas: Advaita Veda, non dualist, and monist 
immaterialist. And the Vaita Veda, dualist and (weakly) materialist.

See my paper on the West and the East, for a little more, and how the []p&p/[]p 
duality makes possible to interpret the Vaita Veda as a phenomenology in the 
Advaita Veda.

Bruno



> On 15 Jul 2019, at 00:51, Philip Thrift <cloudver...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> It's a cycle:
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclic_model 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclic_model>
> 
> @philipthrift
> 
>  
> 
> On Sunday, July 14, 2019 at 1:36:01 PM UTC-5, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
> Aha! Thrift. Have at you! What do you think about last month's reveal, by the 
> University of Munich upon quasi-particles? 
> Matter, indeed, may be forever? 
> https://www.realclearscience.com/2019/06/17/quasiparticles_can_become_quotvirtually_immortalquot_286342.html
>  
> <https://www.realclearscience.com/2019/06/17/quasiparticles_can_become_quotvirtually_immortalquot_286342.html>
> In other words this conceivably beats entropy. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Sun, Jul 14, 2019 6:49 am
> Subject: Matter is forever
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> 
> 
> The Bhagavad Gita (on the eternality of matter and its transformability): 
> "Material nature and the living entities should be understood to be 
> beginningless. Their transformations and the modes of matter are products of 
> material nature."
> 
> 
> @philipthrift
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