> On 19 Jul 2019, at 22:48, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 7/19/2019 12:33 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> "I’m happy to be described as a monist. There aren’t multiple different >> kinds of things; there is only the wave function of the universe. As an >> emergent approximation it’s useful to characterize the wave function as >> describing multiple worlds." >> >> So for Sean Carroll, reality is a mathematical entity: a wave function. >> At least Thales believed in stuff (matter). > > "Stuff" is sufficiently vague that the wave-function could qualify as > "stuff". The contentious question seems to be where conscious thoughts fall > in the ontology. Are they processes realized by stuff (Vic), or do they > exist in a separate Platonic real(Bruno),
Elementary arithmetic is that realm, and I ask you: how it could be separated, and mostly: from what? >From your irreducible material universe in which you seem to believe? Why invoke such a thing. It is not used in physics. It is used in physicalism, which until now just put the mind-body problem under the rug. With mechanism, we have a “simple” explanation of consciousness, and a “simple” explanation of where the observable comes from, and we can test it. Your use of metaphysics is like the pseudo-religious one. You claim that your god (Matter) is enough to not do the experimental testing. Bruno > do they constitute a separate realm(pt), do they constitute > everything(Cosmin)? > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/e34f9de3-ad3c-e238-69ad-c5d18685e49a%40verizon.net > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/e34f9de3-ad3c-e238-69ad-c5d18685e49a%40verizon.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/FBFF642E-4678-4992-AD67-65256984C175%40ulb.ac.be.
