On Tue, Jul 23, 2019, at 14:15, Philip Thrift wrote:
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> On Tuesday, July 23, 2019 at 8:56:07 AM UTC-5, telmo wrote:
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>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019, at 13:45, Philip Thrift wrote:
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>>> Keep in mind there is no consciousness without matter.
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>> Is there matter without consciousness?
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>> Telmo.
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> According to panpsychists, *no*. :) 
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> https://www.iep.utm.edu/panpsych/

I know :)
But panpsychists are still materialists. Which leads me to the tougher 
question: does matter exist outside of first-person conscious experience? If 
your answer is "yes", my follow-up question is quite predictable: how do you 
know?

Telmo.

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