On 8/8/2019 3:26 PM, Jason Resch wrote:


On Thursday, August 8, 2019, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



    On 8/8/2019 2:39 PM, Jason Resch wrote:


    On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 4:29 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



        On 8/8/2019 2:05 PM, Jason Resch wrote:

            Quantum computers can emulate any classical
            computation.  If a brain emulated on a quantum computer
            answers "no" when asked the question "are you
            conscious?" while the same brain emulated on a Pentium
            III processor answers "yes" when asked the same
            question, then you have a violation of the
            Church-Turing thesis.


        The Church-Turing thesis doesn't show that a computer must be
        ignorant of everything about it.


    Because any program can be run as part of an emulation of some
    particular hardware implementation running that program, no
    program can be implemented that can make a certain determination
    about its ultimate computing substrate.  This is exploited to run
    emulators
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_console_emulator> of
    different gaming hardware, or virtual machines
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_machine>.  This is a
    direct consequence of any Turing Machine being able to simulated
    any other.
    If a program's behavior would branch differently based on its
    ultimate computing substrate, you could use this as a routine to
    determine the underlying computing substrate, and it would make
    it impossible for one Turing machine to simulate that other one.

    If you are actually running the same algorithim on the quantum
    computer and the Pentium III, then they must both give the same
    answer.  So your hypothetical has a false premise.


Right, so then you are left with a zombie computation. (Unless you agree with me that it would be conscious).

I agree that it would be just as conscious as the classical computer running the same algorithm (whether simply saying you are conscious makes it so is a different question).

Brent

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