On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 5:50 AM Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 25, 2019, 3:10 AM Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 4:42 PM Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> For example, do you think there is any important difference between a >>> mathematical structure that is isomorphic to a physical universe and that >>> physical universe? >>> >> >> Yes; the physical universe is self-sustaining, the mathematical structure >> is not. >> > > Why do you think this? > Because the physical universe exists, and mathematical structures are human constructs within this universe. > Assuming both exist, is one capable of building conscious minds while the >>> other is not? If one cannot, what do you think it is that "physicalness" >>> adds which is not present in that mathematical structure which enables the >>> physical one to hold conscious minds? >>> >> >> As I said; the physical structure exists independently, whereas the >> mathematical structure is only an abstract construct, which does not exist >> independently of the mind that created it. >> > > What's the difference between abstract and concrete? > Things that exist differ from things that are only imagined. > I think it's only a matter of relative perspective. Other universes to > us seem abstract. While to people in other universes ours would seem > abstract. Do you agree? > What other universes? Other universes, if they exist, are self-contained and do not interact with our known universe. So speculation along these lines is fruitless, even if not actually meaningless. Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLSq%2B4yj%3D5xka4Nabq8n1HcaxkS%2B_CUDoDT1bqbwvsmDTQ%40mail.gmail.com.
