> On 25 Aug 2019, at 20:10, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Sunday, August 25, 2019 at 12:38:17 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
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> A mathematical structure is a relation between propositions defined by some 
> rules of deduction.  It is static.  It has no "accidental" or as Bruno would 
> say "geographic" features. Two mathematical structures can be isomorphic 
> precisely because of this.  It is impossible that a mathematical and a 
> physical structure be isomorophic.  That is just a loose way of talking that 
> assumes we will abstract away enough of the physical structure so that the 
> remainder can be represented mathematically and then that can be isomorphic 
> to some other mathematical structure.  
> 
> Brent
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> Once one eliminates Platonism and accepts that mathematics is programming 
> <https://codicalist.wordpress.com/2019/08/22/arche-programming/> 

If you accept the idea that a machine stops, or does not stop, then 99,9999…% 
of the mathematical reality, and some percentage of the physical reality, is 
not programmable. 





> then all of physics (what humans have thought of to model the cosmos) can be 
> found in the numerical relativity and quantum simulation programs running on 
> computers.

If I am computable, reality cannot be computable.



> 
> So a program and a "physical structure" are only isomorphic if the universe 
> itself is a simulation.

With mechanism, despite a general misunderstanding, the physical reality is not 
a simulation, nor is the mathematical reality (even limited to the arithmetical 
reality). This is already empirically confirmed somehow, by QM, I would say.

Bruno



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