On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 12:05:39 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote:
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> On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 10:45:12 AM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
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>> On 8/27/2019 11:34 PM, Philip Thrift wrote:
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>> On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 12:21:12 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: 
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>>> Maybe Neumaier is a good enough physicist not to let his theological 
>>> beliefs influence his physics. Don Page is another such whose name springs 
>>> to mind. Neumaier's rejection of the reality of virtual particles and 
>>> quantum foam is soundly based on his good physics.
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>> https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/interview-mathematician-physicist-arnold-neumaier/
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>> He seems more of a dabbler in physics to me. He is primarily a 
>> mathematician.
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>> The problems that these additional elements in the traditional 
>> interpretations are supposed to solve are sidestepped in the thermal 
>> approach by realizing basic but previously overlooked facts: The first is 
>> that we never ever measure directly something microscopic. Instead we 
>> deduce the microscopic information indirectly from macroscopic measurements 
>> together with some theory relating it to the microscopic system of 
>> interest. The second fact is that a macroscopic observation is simply the 
>> deterministic reading of an ensemble expectation value, and not (as 
>> postulated in the conventional interpretations) an intrinsically random 
>> event governed by Born’s probabilistic rule. Both facts together eliminate 
>> the validity of all no-go theorems for a realistic interpretation of 
>> quantum mechanics.
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>> There's nothing new about an ensemble interpretation, but it is 
>> effectively a hidden variable theory and so is non-local.  That's why it's 
>> not popular.
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>> Brent
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> I any case, reading about his
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>     * thermal interpretation of quantum physics (including quantum 
> mechanics, quantum field theory, quantum statistical mechanics**, and 
> application)*
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>      https://www.mat.univie.ac.at/~neum/physfaq/therm/
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> (and there are comments in some forums on this interpretation) seems "out 
> there", and his home page
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>    God excels in loving those He wants to love.
>    He excels in forming those He wants to form.
>    He excels in trying those He wants to try.
>    He excels in testing those He wants to test.
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>    God excels in destroying what He wants to destroy.
>    He excels in creating what He wants to create.
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>    God is perfect in everything. 
>    <https://www.mat.univie.ac.at/~neum/sciandf/eng/perfect.html>
>    All powers are His,
>    From the dawn of history into all eternity.
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>    This is why it is safe to be in His arms,
>    Like a small child loved by his mother.
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>    As all those who want to follow His lead,
>    He loves me <https://www.mat.univie.ac.at/~neum/sciandf/eng/joy.html>, 
>    and I love Him 
>    <https://www.mat.univie.ac.at/~neum/sciandf/eng/arms.html>.
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>            https://www.mat.univie.ac.at/~neum/
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> leads one to come to the crackpot diagnosis.
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> He seems to do some good mathematics and numerical analysis, bit outside 
> of that ...
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> @philipthrift
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Phil, how about your considered opinion of his analysis of virtual 
particles? As Bruce indicated, some scientists are able to put aside their 
religious beliefs in analyzing physical theories. TIA, AG 

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