Gratitude is essential.However, if you don't look for answers out of a fear of 
displeasing, it blocks future discoveries, re-evaluations, innovations. How is 
the best and least impudent question to pursue. Also, the Big Mind might be 
looking to get the species to improve itself, brain-wise. 


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From: Samiya Illias <[email protected]>
To: everything-list <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Aug 28, 2019 10:46 pm
Subject: Re: Quantum Foam

فَاذْكُرُونِي أَذْكُرْكُمْ وَاشْكُرُوا لِي وَلَا تَكْفُرُونِ

So remember Me, I will remember you and be grateful to Me and (do) not (be) 
ungrateful to Me. 
[Al-Quran 2:152] 
The Quran does not discourage the HOW questions, rather it encourages humans to 
ponder upon the creation, but it emphasises the WHY questions. God does not 
need our help in creating, sustaining, destroying or recreating everything. 
What He wants from us is realisation and acknowledgement for all He has done, 
and is continuously doing, and to realise that there is great purpose in all of 
this. 
The Quran, like The Bible, gives us insights about Allah, but at the same time 
informs us that God is not like anything else. So we cannot imagine or compare 
God with anything. We can only have an idea... I have tried to explore some of 
these ayaat in a series of posts, which might be of interest to you: 
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/p/allah.html    

On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 3:59 AM spudboy100 via Everything List 
<[email protected]> wrote:

You need to answer the How questions of physics, before you can properly look 
at the Why questions of religion (yours), and philosophy. One possibility that 
I find compelling (and it is never a complete answer) is that God is a 
Boltzmann Brain, and the Universe might be, in some fashion that particular a 
Boltzmann Brain. Most here on this mailing group despises this notion, (which 
is ok by me!). 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boltzmann_brain
In 2004, a German physicist, Andreas Albrecht,  reviewed the Boltzmann 
equations and sort of pondered this, a bit.
http://albrecht.ucdavis.edu/special-topics/inflation-arrow-time
A couple of years before, the Yahoodi physicist, Leonard Susskind had also 
looked at this possibility.
https://events.stanford.edu/events/138/13871/
Neither of these guys turned religious at all, but their speculations still 
stands. It makes as much sense as the conventional models of the cosmos, and 
yield the added, benefit, of suspecting in all this emptiness (apparently) that 
there's a Big Mind out there. Maybe God is akin to a computer operating system, 
compared to us microbes? For me, it's sort of inspiring. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Samiya Illias <[email protected]>
To: everything-list <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Aug 28, 2019 12:15 am
Subject: Re: Quantum Foam



On 28-Aug-2019, at 9:01 AM, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote:




On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 5:55:36 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:

I came across a good article that is apposite to the discussion in this thread. 
Arnold Neumaier has an article on virtual particles at:
https://www.physicsforums.com/ insights/vacuum-fluctuation- myth/

where he looks at the origin of much of the common mythology surrounding the 
idea of vacuum fluctuations and virtual particles. People should read this and 
take the lessons to heart -- all of this mythology arose from well-meaning, but 
ultimately mis-guided, attempts to explain the mysteries of quantum mechanics 
to lay people. The result was enduring confusion, that now affects even 
professional physicists.
Bruce 



Very interesting fellow. Interesting article. I was intrigued reading the link 
there to his biography of himself being math to applied math ending up in 
computing and dabbling in physics. Sounded like me!
Then
Two years after my Ph.D., my formerly atheistic world view changed and I became 
a Christian. I got convinced that there is a very powerful God who created the 
Universe, who controls what appears to us as chance, and who is interested in 
each of us individually. I understood (with Galilei, and later Newton and 
Maxwell) that God had written the book of nature in the language of 
mathematics. As a result of these insights, one of my life goals became to 
understand all the important applications of mathematics in other fields of 
science, engineering, and ordinary life. It is a challenge that keeps me 
learning all my life.

https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/interview-mathematician-physicist-arnold-neumaier/

@philipthrift 

I pray may Allah bless you with faith. He has already blessed you with much 
knowledge and understanding. May He choose you to serve Him with reverence. 
Samiya 

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