> On 7 Sep 2019, at 17:17, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Saturday, September 7, 2019 at 9:25:59 AM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
> On Saturday, September 7, 2019 at 4:09:27 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
> <[email protected] <>> wrote:
> 
> >> Sean Carroll is on a nationwide speaking tour now evangelizing Many 
> >> Worlds. What is the predictive power of Many Worlds?
> 
> > None, unless someone can figure out how to derive Born's rule from 
> > it...which I think is impossible. 
> 
> Many Worlds predicts that the best any observer will be able to do is make 
> probabilistic  predictions, and Gleason's theorem says that in 3 spatial 
> dimensions only the square of Schrodinger's wave (the Born rule), and not the 
> cube or anything else, can yield a probability without inconsistencies.
> 
> John K Clark
> 
> Gleason's theorem is sort of a special case of Born rule for the case an 
> operator is the unit operator. There is an interesting chase after the Born 
> rule, and some people do think that certain quantum interpretations give the 
> added axiomatic "boost" necessary to prove that. I am agnostic about those 
> claims. If this does turn out to be the case I would give the best bet to 
> either MWI or QuBism. 
> 
> LC
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> If the best bet is  either MWI or QuBism  then theoretical physics is indeed 
> doomed. 

Yes. But theoretical physics is not doomed, only physicalism, or the idea that 
physics is the fundamental science. As such it is not doomed, but explain by 
something non physical, simpler, even if transcendent.

Bruno




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