On 9/6/2019 10:54 PM, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote:

On 9/6/2019 9:51 PM, Philip Thrift wrote:
>
> I would put "Horganism" another way.
>
> Science tells stories/theories, and some are successful in their
> application. But we don't know if any of the stories are the final
> ones to be told, or even close to being final. (They probably are
> not.) There is no settled story of gravity yet, much less
> consciousness. One reads about a new story of gravity in science news
> every week, it seems.
>
> David Chalmers' conclusion is ...
>
> "I think that the Hegelian [dialectical] argument gives good reason to
> take both panpsychism and panprotopsychism very seriously. If we can
> find a reasonable solution to the combination problem for either, this
> view would immediately become the most promising solution to the
> mind–body problem. So the combination problem deserves serious and
> sustained attention."
> - http://consc.net/papers/panpsychism.pdf <http://consc.net/papers/panpsychism.pdf>

The trouble with panpsychism is that it doesn't buy you anything. There's still the question of why am I not conscious under anesthesia? And do I really believe rocks are conscious?...no, we'll say they have "proto-consciousness".  But once you introduce a concept like proto-consciousness, why attribute it to everything. Why not just say nerves have proto-consciousness, when they are functional.

Brent

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