On Saturday, September 14, 2019 at 5:36:45 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 5:51 AM Lawrence Crowell <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > > > This points to an objection to MWI. Quantum superpositions splitting in >> MWI, or somewhat equivalently the fluctuation/localization of a decoherent >> event, can be amplified. In the case of this quantum suicide argument the >> lottery ticket numbers assigned may have a quantum basis going back in >> time. Within MWI this means the world split long before the winning ticket >> was announced. > > > I don't see how that follows. All observers in the multiverse will say the > odds you will win the lottery tomorrow are one in 80 million, but if you > won today all observers in the multiverse will say that the odds you will > win the lottery were one in 80 million but somebody had to win and it > happened to be you. Most observers in the multiverse are looking at a > losing ticket today but you are not because you arranged things so that a > losing ticket causes you to stop existing, so you only exist in universes > where you're filthy rich. The universes where you didn't win still exist > but you are no longer in them. No backward causality is needed. > > As for me... I think Many Worlds is probably more or less correct, but I > wouldn't stake my life on it. > > John K Clark >
Yet, that classical probability for a winning ticket is determined by some quantum superposition of states that give a probability for a ticket to be printed with some set of numbers, or for some probability of tickets being distributed in some way. So this rather strict classical probability is due to some single or maybe multiple quantum probabilities for various outcomes. In performing this quantum suicide experiment one is forcing the situation in something similar to a Wheeler delayed choice experiment. The question is then how is this classical probability for a winning lottery ticket tied to an outcome of a quantum decoherence, or maybe a multiple set of them? Also as with the Wheeler delayed choice experiment, there is a reduction of states prior to the occurrence of the particle on a screen, and with this suicide experiment there is a quantum outcome prior to the final experimental end that demolishes the appearance of superposition. How is that localized? Or is it localized in some way? LC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/56c567d1-6605-4ba6-a3c8-68977ef70bb1%40googlegroups.com.
