On Friday, September 13, 2019 at 11:19:43 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
>
> That's the plot of one of the stories in Colin Bruce's book 
> "Schroedinger's Rabbits".  
>
> One of the problems is that the way the Poweball numbers come up is not 
> directly quantum randomness.  It may be determined by the amplification of 
> some random quantum events in the past.  But how far in the past.  You 
> don't want it to be so far in the past that it can be causally correlated 
> with your decision to set up the suicide machine. Of course t'Hooft claims 
> they are all causally determined.
>
> Brent
>
>
This points to an objection to MWI. Quantum superpositions splitting in 
MWI, or somewhat equivalently the fluctuation/localization of a decoherent 
event, can be amplified. In the case of this quantum suicide argument the 
lottery ticket numbers assigned may have a quantum basis going back in 
time. Within MWI this means the world split long before the winning ticket 
was announced. This has some similarity to Wheeler's delayed choice 
experiment. This means the splitting of the world is not a local process 
and we then have a question as to what are the prior probabilities for this 
splitting if we can't localize this event? 

There is some sort of duality I think between local quantum fields and 
causal physics vs the nonlocality of quantum states. The only causal 
quantum field that may be intrinsically nonlocal is gravitation. 
Gravitation as emergent from quantum entanglements is likely a nonlocal 
quantum field. This duality then maybe be expressed as

UV quantum gravity states = IR quantum field states

which is a way of stating the Einstein field equation. UV means high energy 
near the Planck scale and IR means much lower energy say a billion times 
LHC energy and lower. The UV quantum gravity states are nonlocal while the 
IR quantum field states are local, or should it be said localizable. 

LC
 

> On 9/13/2019 2:27 PM, John Clark wrote:
>
> I have a modest proposal, it's a low tech way to find out once and for all 
> if the Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics is correct, and as 
> a side effect make you rich. First you buy one Powerball lottery ticket, 
> the next drawing of the winning number is at 11pm tonight. Then make a 
> simple machine that will monitor the internet and pull the trigger on a 44 
> magnum aimed at your head at exactly 11.01pm UNLESS yours is the winning 
> ticket. If Many Worlds is correct your subjective experience can only be 
> that at 11.01pm, despite 80 million to one odds stacked against you, a 
> miracle occurs and the gun does not go off and you're rich beyond the 
> dreams of avarice. After that as you fly on your private jet to your 
> private island you can contemplate the fact that you are the only person in 
> the world who knows the true nature of reality and knows it with absolute 
> certainty. And it only cost you a few hundred dollars to make the machine, 
> the most expensive part being the gun itself. 
>
> Of course for every universe you're rich in there are 80 million in which 
> your friends watch your head explode, but that's a minor point,  your 
> consciousness no longer exists in any of those worlds so you never have to 
> see the mess; somebody else will have to clean up the thousands of itty 
> bitty bits of brain splattered all over the room, it's their problem not 
> yours. 
>
> John K Clark
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