On Friday, September 20, 2019 at 5:38:02 AM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
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> On Thursday, September 19, 2019 at 12:27:59 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
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>> On 9/18/2019 10:44 PM, smitra wrote:
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>> On 18-09-2019 20:10, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote: 
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>> On 9/18/2019 1:33 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: 
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>> But suppose you flip a coin and while it's in the air, you write its wf. 
>> Since the prevailing belief is that all objects are quantum objects, why 
>> can't one suppose that the two terms in the superposition, head and tail, 
>> manifest quantum interference? AG 
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>> One clue that you can't is that magicians teach themselves to flip a 
>> coin so that can always catch it the same way it started.  That shows 
>> it's not quantum randomness. 
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>> Brent 
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>> That only shows that in some cases its not random. But when it is random, 
>> it can only be due to quantum fluctuations as there is no other form of 
>> randomness in nature. 
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>> There's no other source of *inherent* randomness.  There's plenty of 
>> randomness from ignorance and there's randomness from the past light cone.
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>> Brent
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> Event horizons may play a randomizing role. Quantum gravitation is likely 
> a nonlocal field theory, whereas other gauge fields are localized as 
> oscillators on spatial surfaces. Of course this is probably a manifestation 
> of how spacetime is emergent from large Qu-Nit entanglements.
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> LC 
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That 

       Quantum gravitation is likely a nonlocal field theory

shows how physics has become like a religion (as Feyerabend criticized).

@philipthrift

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