> On 17 Sep 2019, at 09:16, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 5:08 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 1:02:39 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 4:51 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected] <>> wrote: > On Monday, September 16, 2019 at 3:54:46 PM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 9:22 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected] <>> wrote: > > > When physics began to give non-intuitive results, in QM and Relativity, > > people when overboard. Now any patently absurd result finds its > > justification among true believers. > > And in this context "patently absurd" means odd, not logically contradictory > not paradoxical not contrary to experimental results, just odd. But as far as > we know there is no law that says nature can't behave in ways that humans > find odd. > > Many "odd" results are now mainstream, but MWI is bridge too far, way too far > IMO. Why don't you just accept that the wf is simply irrelevant after the > measurement occurs like in the horserace example?. Here, there's no collapse, > no many worlds, no need to explain where the energy comes from which defines > these worlds, and so forth? AG > > Except that horses and horse races do not interfere (except in Australia, > where several jockeys and trainers have recently been suspended for > unauthorised interference -- but that is a different matter!) > > Bruce > > I know. I was just being illustrative. But note that Carroll says much the > same thing when he says worlds are created when you make a left or right > turn, or flip a coin (or some equivalent analogy). AG > > And that is where Sean slips inevitably into woo-woo.
Not if you shake the coin long enough. The Heisenberg uncertainties can add up, and eventually you can the two (times aleph_1) histories/worlds. But if you flip the coin without shaking much, that will not lead to any superposition. You don’t need to isolate the coin, note. (Just to prevent a common mistake here too). Bruno > > Bruce > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLRWEhcgisyY22wfpefvxs4P%2BQQzUyks81EgVYTK%2BQy18w%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLRWEhcgisyY22wfpefvxs4P%2BQQzUyks81EgVYTK%2BQy18w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/921B1F68-BC4B-4BAE-B9FB-C151E93C7BF1%40ulb.ac.be.
