On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 4:36:11 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 1:39 AM Jason Resch <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 9:34 PM Bruce Kellett <[email protected] >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 11:46 AM Jason Resch <[email protected] >>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Thursday, September 19, 2019, Alan Grayson <[email protected] >>>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What I have shown is that it's hypothetically possible to have >>>>> countable universes wherein there are no repeats, no exact copies. AG >>>>> >>>> >>>> It might be imaginable but there being no duplicates of any finite >>>> spaces within an infinite space violates the Bekenstein bound and >>>> holographic principle. >>>> >>> >>> That is simply false. The duplicates could contain no information. The >>> Bekenstein bound applies to black holes, suggesting that if the infinite >>> space has a finite matter density, it will close to form a BH. The >>> holographic principle is a conjecture based on disfavoured string theory. >>> >> >> Both places absolute finite limits on the information content of a finite >> volume containing finite energy. Is this no longer a favored theory in >> physics? >> > > Holography is highly speculative. The Bekenstein bound does not apply to > non-static universes, such as our expanding universe. > > >> If a finite region does contain finite information, then in an infinite >> (homogeneous) space, that same finite pattern will reappear infinitely. >> > > You overlook the possibility that the infinite repeats are of > uninteresting volumes, and that the initial conditions for some volumes may > never repeat. > > >> This is a consequence also of eternal inflation, and Guth used almost >> identical language saying everything that can happen happens an infinite >> number of times. >> > > Guth was wrong about a lot of things. Eternal inflation is an unproven > speculative idea. Not even inflation itself is entirely secure -- it is > increasingly becoming to look like a solution in search of a problem. All > of Guth's original motivations for inflation have come to very little. >
*Doesn't inflation account for the homogeneity of our present observable universe that is causally UN-connected? Was it one of problems that inspired Guth to posit inflation? AG * > > Bruce > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/ba952539-8610-4625-b826-1911fb7cf68d%40googlegroups.com.
