On 9/23/2019 2:05 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:


On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 11:01:46 AM UTC-6, Brent wrote:



    On 9/22/2019 11:36 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:


    On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 10:55:35 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote:



        On 9/22/2019 8:52 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:

            Of course they are mathematically possible. You just
            need to start with the right axioms. Everything
            mathematically possible that is not self contradictory
            (including a flat Earth and flying pigs).

            Brent


        I don't see dark bands as mathematically possible since
        these regions have 100% destructive interference. AG

        They have destructive interference in a universe that
        satisfies quantum mechanics.  How do you know there isn't a
        universe that satisfies Newtonian mechanics?  or Harry Potter
        mechanics?  Or Aristotelian mechanics?

        Brent


    So now you're saying that everything *conceivable* is possible.
    But isn't that what you criticized Jason for? AG

    Yes, I did.  And above I'm criticizing you for not recognizing the
    difference between nomologically impossible in this universe under
    the physics as we understand it, and Tegmark's everything
    mathematically consistent happens in some universe.

    Brent


In fact I looked up "nomologically" and I'm not clear as to your meaning. Jason said "everything conceivable", so you pointed out what amounts to destructive interference and flying pigs as things that don't happen in our world. Why do that, and then turn around and mention universes where QM doesn't work. Let's just say that Jason didn't misuse the term, and leave it at that.  AG

Jason may well believe that everything conceivable happens.  After all he's on the "everything" list.  But he's wrong to think that quantum mechanics endorses that assumption.

Brent

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