> On 23 Sep 2019, at 05:24, Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 7:39:50 PM UTC-6, Jason wrote:
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> On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 8:15 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
> <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:
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> On 9/22/2019 3:46 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
> > every conceivable pattern that is possible can happen and would happen
> 
> No.  That is NOT the theory.  The theory is that everything 
> nomologically consistent with the initial conditions may happen. 
> "Conceviable" is having a flat Earth and flying pigs.
> 
> 
> I qualified it with "that is possible", I grant that "conceivable" becomes 
> superfluous with the "possible" constraint.  Anyway, here is what Guth writes:
> 
>  “This process will repeat itself literally forever, producing a kind of a 
> fractal structure to the universe, resulting in an infinite number of the 
> local universes […] Of course this fractal structure is entirely on distance 
> scales much too large to be observed, so we cannot expect astronomers to see 
> it. Nonetheless, one does have to think about the fractal structure if one 
> wants to understand the very large scale structure of the spacetime produced 
> by inflation. Most important of all is the simple statement that once 
> inflation happens, it produces not just one universe, but an infinite number 
> of universes.” He concludes, “In an eternally inflating universe, anything 
> that can happen will happen; in fact, it will happen an infinite number of 
> times.”
> 
> -- Alan Gutth, "Eternal inflation and its implications" ( 
> https://arxiv.org/pdf/hep-th/0702178.pdf 
> <https://arxiv.org/pdf/hep-th/0702178.pdf> )
> 
> Jason
> 
> Unless Guth can plausbily argue why eternal inflation must occur, the claim 
> goes far behind mere speculation since it's already beyond our ability to 
> observe. AG 

Whatever is observable is dream-able, and so “observation” is not a good 
criterion for deciding the ontology.

That is the older anti-physicalist argument, already in Plato, and well before.

Bruno



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