On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 12:32:13 PM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 2:27 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> >> >> On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 12:19:40 PM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 11:59 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >> Sean Carroll: >>>>> >>>>> So Isaac Newton came up with the rules of classical mechanics in the >>>>> 1600s, but it wasn't until Laplace around the year 1800 that this >>>>> implication of classical mechanics was realized. >>>>> It's a clockwork universe. That the way classical mechanics works is >>>>> if you tell me the state of a system right now at one moment by which in >>>>> classical mechanics you would mean the position and the velocity of every >>>>> part, and you knew the laws of physics and you had arbitrarily large >>>>> computational capacity, >>>>> Laplace said of vast intelligence okay then to that vast intelligence >>>>> the past and future would be as determined and known as the present was >>>>> because that's the clockwork universe is deterministic everything is >>>>> fixed >>>>> once you know the present moment. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> *> But Laplace was wrong in one very important respect. One can never >>>> know the exact position and momentum of any particle, let alone the entire >>>> universe. There are no perfect measurements! Further, the situation is >>>> further aggravated by the Uncertainty Principle. In sum, using classical >>>> mechanics the future is NOT determined by its present, imprecise >>>> configuration. Not only is Laplace mistaken, but Carroll as well, who >>>> should know better. AG * >>>> >>> >>> Oh for christ sake! That remark is as stupid as your crap about the >>> flying saucer people in New Mexico. Do you really think Sean Carroll, a >>> professor of physics at one of the best universities in the world, >>> doesn't know that?! >>> >>> John K Clark >>> >> >> *> Before you shoot your mouth off, read what I wrote in response to >> Brent. Sean DOES know better, but he deliberately twisted Laplace's view to >> fit his foolish agenda. Not very honest. As for flying saucers, they're >> really much more probable than* [...] >> > > You sir are an ass. > > John K Clark >
I will also note your dishonesty, or shall we say cowardice, in trucating my comment. AG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/236d8d3f-8f8b-45f2-81b9-1bad0d8490f0%40googlegroups.com.
